I finally, in my mind, managed to crystallize the three main objections to the PPAHCA today. That’s the Patient Protection and Affordable Health Care Act, aka, Obamacare.
Objection #1: It’s Obamacare. I hate Obama. Nothing he is for can be good. Mainly because he is (check all that apply) a socialist, Communist, Nazi, Muslim, sleeper terrorist, black.
Objection #2: I still can’t afford it. This is the part that sadly may be true. Because the Republicans gutted the law before it was passed, keeping it unaffordable. Not to mention the Tea Party, the Libertarians, and the Anarchists, who don’t believe that health care is a right. Everyone should lift themselves up by their bootstraps and be able to purchase healthcare as a privilege. The only time you have a right to life is if you’re a fetus.
Objection #3: I should not be forced to buy a product I don’t want, even if I CAN afford to. Because I’m an American! I’m free as a bird! This is the objection I find most ridiculous. I think you most certainly should be forced. Because unless you do, as a person who has insurance–I’m paying for your healthcare. I want to stop. Or at least I’d like it to be cheaper for me to help pay for your health care. I’m not convinced that PPAHCA will make it cheaper for me, but this is at least an attempt.
Unless you’re living in a cave, you know that the U.S. government is partially shut down. I picture people in other developed countries, who resolved the issue of health care long ago, asking what the hell is wrong with us? Good question.
The only good thing is that by partially shutting down the government, Republicans are committing suicide. I just don’t understand how they don’t get that. I say, keep it up. It’s a snake eating its own tail.
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Objection #2: I still can’t afford it. This is the part that sadly may be true. Because the Republicans gutted the law before it was passed, keeping it unaffordable. Not to mention the Tea Party, the Libertarians, and the Anarchists, who don’t believe that health care is a right. Everyone should lift themselves up by their bootstraps and be able to purchase healthcare as a privilege. The only time you have a right to life is if you’re a fetus.
Well you are nothing if not consistent.
Here’s the part of your thought process I don’t understand. Let’s say you are correct and the current government dysfunction is all Republican fault. Why then are you so anxious to turn over your health care to a dysfunctional government? Do you really want a closer relationship with the IRS? Or would you prefer to line us all up against a wall and shoot everyone who disagrees with you? Of course if you did that it would reduce the pool of payers substantially and you would have to pay more.
The government can not guarantee you health care, only the medical community can care for you. And if they opt out of government intervention and convert to pay for service what will you do then………shoot them too?
Tsk, pt. I don’t think I mentioned firing squads. The government does in fact guarantee health care to retirees and the disabled; in the case of retirees, they earned it. It’s their money. It isn’t an “entitlement”. I think you miss the broader point I’m making, that there is a broad middle that we are paying for. When you choose not to participate in some sort of healthcare plan, that doesn’t mean you don’t get health care. It just means I’m paying for it when you do get it.
In the case of the disabled, we are paying for that as well we should, because we live in a civilized society.
I think there is a “loophole” that will undermine the intent of the act.
Insurance companies cannot deny coverage for “existing conditions.” And, I read that many younger, single folks are saying they won’t sign up. At this time…
Because when they do get sick, and it is not immediately life threatening, then they can sign up at the next enrollment period. For this first year, “pre-existing condition” should be OK. But then, a “pre-existing condition” should NOT be covered for at least six months.
Otherwise, it seems to me the financial basis for the insurance is undermined. Life insurance typically has a clause that suicide is not covered for two years. Otherwise, I can sign up for $500,000 and then kill my self once the policy is in effect.
“Because the Republicans gutted the law before it was passed, keeping it unaffordable”
I do not recall that happening, perhaps you can refresh my memory. What I do remember is a complete Democratic control of both houses and the oval office and a slam it down your throat non partisan law that Nancy Spumoni said we have to read to find out what’s in it. Perhaps you are thinking of Joe Liberman’s efforts to effect partisanship which interrupted the in your face Reid goose stepping.
Also I do not understand how your paying for others health coverage now will be altered at all with the Unaffordable Health Care edict. CBS did a spot on a woman who was so thankful she now had insurance under it as it was unaffordable for her prior to Oct. She found a health care policy for a $100 mth premium. Sounds good right? But the annual deductible was $13K. So she is still uninsured for the first $13K of her medical expenses. How does that change the “broad middle” that you charge I am missing? If she can afford that deductible expense wouldn’t it make more sense to have a lower deductible and higher premium? So the ER may still be her answer for all but catastrophic illness. Yes this is only 1 example but it is the 1 CBS chose to trot out to worship at the alter with.
Where I think Republicans are missing the boat is that TUAHCA is now law. It would be much smarter IMO to let it flounder and focus on winning coming elections. Even though the majority is razor thin that is the basis for our government. It really pisses me off to hear anyone say they are speaking for the American people, when in truth they are accountable only to a very small part of their respective constituencies. And the one man who is truly accountable to all is the most divisive leader in the country. It is difficult to make him look better but Republicans have found a way to look worse.
So I posit that the law is a mess but it is the law. Also that it is a bad law pushed by an intellectual reformer who still believes, as he said early on, that HE is the change.